Comments on: Sometimes we need Hero and Villain http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/ for friends of University Bible Fellowship Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:34:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.1 By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14341 Sat, 05 Jul 2014 18:59:57 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14341 I read that Brad and Angelinas’ daughter Vivienne was in the movie: Vivienne starred in Maleficent.

“Her suffering was unbearable, because she had trusted and been deceived.”

Yes that storyline resonated strongly with me, since I was duped by ubf KOPAHN theology for many years into thinking ubf was was Christian missionary training organization.

“But Maleficent learned to love again. I commend the movie’s definition of true love.”

Yes that is a very, very good storyline of the movie.

I think the Stephen/Maleficent relationship expresses the all-too-common human experience of loving someone who then turns against you. It seems to also have something to do with the two warring kingdoms.

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By: MJ Peace http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14312 Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:17:54 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14312 I just watched this movie in theaters yesterday. I absolutely loved it. I was pleasantly surprised. The beginning was very painful to watch and I can see how the “wing scene” is analogous to rape, but that’s not what I thought when I first watched it. Her suffering was unbearable, because she had trusted and been deceived.

But Maleficent learned to love again. I commend the movie’s definition of true love. It wasn’t Phillip’s kiss that saved her. That scene had me tearing up. Of course, some relationships didn’t make sense like the stephen/maleficent and crow/maleficent. For me, I didn’t understand the basis of those relationships. But it’s a good movie to watch.

One of my friends also saw the wings as a metaphor for Angelina Jolie’s double mastectomy. Interesting…I also loved the camo with her little baby.

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By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14285 Thu, 26 Jun 2014 11:15:07 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14285 Thanks for sharing a link to that review Darren. I really enjoyed reading it. Several comments in the review express what I was trying to say here.

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By: Darren Gruett http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14284 Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:43:31 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14284 I haven’t seen this movie as I rarely go to the theater anymore. In fact, I think the last movie I saw in the theater was The Avengers a couple of years ago. With a little girl at home it’s easier to use Red Box. Anyway, that’s not the point of this post. Since you were discussing movie reviews, you might be interested in this site.

http://www.pluggedin.com/movies/intheaters/maleficent.aspx

It’s run by Focus on the Family, and I use it all the time. On multiple occasions it has shaped whether I ended up seeing a particular film or not. I don’t find it to be nearly as subjective as movie reviews often are, and it’s way better than using the MPAA rating system.

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By: bekamartin http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14281 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:38:02 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14281 The “rape review” actually came from feminist sites, not christian sites.

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By: bekamartin http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14280 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:35:30 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14280 Yes, christians have been against Disney for a long time. I judge a movie (including Disney) on my own value system, not on what others say. Still, there is more to life than great movies, so I can skip this one.

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By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14279 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:29:58 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14279 Here are some such horrible reviews:

Maleficent movie review

Maleficent movie review 2

You know, I think Christians just don’t know how to be “in the world but not of it” anymore. Instead, they have to build their own kingdom where they tell the stories and are masters of truth.

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By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14278 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:23:11 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14278 “How is the quote above describing a higher love? I don’t see it.”

Correct. That quote does not describe a higher love. The quote describes the traditional Disney storyline about romantic love. The movie seeks to tell a new story about a Godmother’s love.

One Christian blogger called this “new story” as Disney’s secret revisionist history, trying to rewrite the Crusader’s history…. I just say WTF? Disney is retelling their own decades old story, which is based on the Grimm story… all of which are fairy tales in the first place and don’t have any real connection to Crusader history…

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By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14277 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:15:46 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14277 Hi Beka,

I was trying to not reveal any spoilers :) The “higher love” is about a God-mother’s love.

“I heard that the wing cutting scene was akin to a rape scene”

Wow, I never would have remotely thought of that or imagined that from the scene. I can see how that perspective might be portrayed onto that scene, but I would say that would be unfair.

This touches on something I’ve learned the past year. I was unfairly portraying my bad experience with authority (at ubf) onto my workplace authority. Once I stopped doing that, my well-being drastically improved.

On a side note, I have not found a good review of this movie by a Christian blogger. Some are now calling Disney the most evil and dangerous company on earth, and quoting bible verses to prove that this movie is evil.

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By: bekamartin http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14275 Tue, 24 Jun 2014 15:05:58 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14275 How is the quote above describing a higher love? I don’t see it. I have not seen this movie because I rarely spend my money on first-run movies, unless it is super fantastic, like God is not dead or Fireproof.

Also, I heard that the wing cutting scene was akin to a rape scene, so I probably will not see that movie.

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By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14274 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:08:48 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14274 “This false and artificial dichotomy is diminishing, decimating and destroying both the church and her witness to the world. – See more at: http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14273

Correct. And such an artificial dichotomy almost destroyed me. Perhaps this artificial “church/secular” dichotomy is the yeast Jesus warned about? Perhaps I need to rethink the “separation of church and state” idea…

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By: BrianK http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14273 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:06:59 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14273 Ben, as with almost all movies lately, there is a much better experience in the movie theater. This one would play out nicely anywhere though, due to the storyline, in my opinion.

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By: Ben Toh http://www.ubfriends.org/2014/06/23/sometimes-we-need-hero-and-villain/#comment-14272 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 14:31:37 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=8087#comment-14272 Christ is regarded both as hero and villain. Sadly, we Christians like to think of ourselves as hero, while all others are villains. This false and artificial dichotomy is diminishing, decimating and destroying both the church and her witness to the world.

On an unrelated issue, is the movie worth watching in the movie theater or can it be satisfyingly watched on TV or the PC?

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