Comments on: Announcement: Skype Talks http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/ for friends of University Bible Fellowship Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:34:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.1 By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11014 Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:21:02 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11014 hitler got everyone to work together but for wrong goal & without them knowing what he was doing..

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By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11011 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:00:15 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11011 deflocking (should i say defrocking:) the put-down of sheep (followers/little ones) by shepherds (medium ones) to honor ldrs (big ones): sheer poppycock
religion must repent of debasing ideology (remember the Pharisees) for sake of false elevation of self (which really only harms self when baloon bursts..)

“Smart” sheep
Due to their strong flocking instinct and failure to act independently of one another, sheep have been universally branded “stupid.” But sheep are not stupid. Their only protection from predators is to band together and follow the sheep in front of them. If a predator is threatening the flock, this is not the time to act independently.

At the same time, there is a growing body of evidence that sheep may actually possess some smarts!

Sheep foil cattle guard
Hungry sheep on the Yorkshire Moors (Great Britain) taught themselves to roll 8 feet (3 meters) across hoof-proof metal cattle grids to raid villagers’ valley gardens. According to a witness, “They lie down on their side or sometimes their back and just roll over and over the grids until they are clear. I’ve seen them doing it. It is quite clever, but they are a big nuisance to the villagers.” [Source: BBC News, July 2004]

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By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11010 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 20:44:53 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11010 groupthink: starts out with exciting shared goal, evolves into violence, & ends in shame/horror..

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11009 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 19:29:19 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11009 On a more positive note and less scary topic… The movie “Amazing Grace” is astounding.

Check it out here: Amazing Grace the Movie

“Behind the hymn you love is a story you will never forget. In 1797, William Wilberforce, the great crusader for the British abolition of slavery, is taking a vacation for his health even while he is sicker at heart for his frustrated cause. However, meeting the charming Barbara Spooner, Wilberforce finds a soulmate to share the story of his struggle. With few allies such as his mentor, John Newton, a slave ship captain turned repentant priest who penned the great hymn, “Amazing Grace,” Prime William Pitt, and Olaudah Equiano, the erudite former slave turned author, Wilberforce fruitlessly fights both public indifference and moneyed opposition determined to keep their exploitation safe. Nevertheless, Wilberforce finds the inspiration in newfound love to rejuvenate the fight with new ideas that would lead to a great victory for social justice.”

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By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11008 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 18:51:33 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11008 ‘who struggle with severe depression for not measuring up’: us believers ought to be ashamed/repent of expecting others to measure up when we ourselves can’t:)
in truth those who come out of such depression are strong like ‘Rocky
Balboa’; but those who thought they themselves measured up, are weak like a like a fluttering leaf..

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11007 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:15:44 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11007 Hitler’s dream for purity, honor, obedience, and glory are shown well in this video. He spoke with passion, ambition and persuaded thousands of good, moral, highly educated, religious people to follow him. Germany was one of the the most highly educated, if not the most educated, countries in the world at the time. I believe the horrid ending of Hitler’s dream was largely due to many wanting to preserve and protect the dream.

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11006 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:07:50 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11006 “aren’t we all misfit in some way”?

Yes exactly Mark! That’s why I said “so-called misfits”. I believe there is no “noble dream” that can generate “good people” for the “benefit of society”. Jesus spoke of the kingdom but not of noble dreams.

Those who seek such things, as I myself have done, find out who the misfit really is… it’s me, myself and I who is the true misfit.

By the way, who had the noblest dream in history? Hitler has to be in the top 3 noblest dreams of purity and goodness for humanity. If you don’t believe me, look back at how that all started. The plans for grand architecture, great cities, purified societies and blessed happiness for all the world that Hitler dreamed up. He even persuaded many in the church to support him and buy into his gospel.

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By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11005 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:58:50 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11005 thank you:
‘I know there are people in UBF who have a homosexual orientation, who have suffered the pains of divorce, who have adopted atheism to cope, who struggle with severe depression for not measuring up, and who are simply exhausted from keeping face and pretending to be strong. There is no safe place for the marginalized and so-called misfit people in UBF to discuss their feelings and thoughts safely.’
the biggest travesty of religion is when it doesn’t allow people to fellowship in God & trust God to guide individuals into His truth (not one person/group’s interpretation of what they think is true/proclaim as true, but can’t verify);
aren’t we all misfit in some way of some thing at some times?
those who don’t know it (the in-group) are the true misfits living in mental fantasy world..

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11002 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:41:55 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11002 My hope is to create another safe place for discussion to happen, taking advantage of the latest feature of Skype, which now allows screen sharing for groups at a reasonable price (and very reasonable for group participants since it is free to watch :)

I know there are people in UBF who have a homosexual orientation, who have suffered the pains of divorce, who have adopted atheism to cope, who struggle with severe depression for not measuring up, and who are simply exhausted from keeping face and pretending to be strong. There is no safe place for the marginalized and so-called misfit people in UBF to discuss their feelings and thoughts safely.

My Skype talks have already taken place. Now I’ve decided to make my Skype available to anyone. I’m here to listen and share my own stories as prompted. I won’t throw bible bombs. I won’t quote the UBF heritage as the answer. I won’t bash or blame UBF. I won’t try to persuade anyone to leave or to stay or make any decision. I won’t attempt to get you to accept Jesus or believe what I believe.

I’m a human being willing to share my journey with whomever would want to join me.

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By: Brian Karcher http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-11001 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:32:18 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-11001 Ben,

There are 14 videos in total as far as I know. 13 were presented at the GLS. I do not have any of those 13 yet, they are “in the mail” and are supposed to arrive the last week of October.

I have a bonus video, which is an interiew of Patrick Lencioni by the lead pastor from a church in St. Catherines Canada, Jeff Lockyear. Jeff is the head pastor at Southridge Community Church.

They discuss Patrick’s book and apply some leadership principles to church leadership and organizational health of churches. It is 29 minutes and rather insightful.

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By: Ben Toh http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-10995 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 14:47:56 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-10995 Brian, What is the one lecture that you now presently have (before the others arrive)? Is it the one by Hybels?

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By: John Y http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-10990 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 14:21:06 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-10990 You’ve successfully captured my interest :)

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By: Mark Mederich http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-10989 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:56:41 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-10989 figuring out skype:)

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By: Joe Schafer http://www.ubfriends.org/2013/09/21/announcement-skype-talks/#comment-10988 Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:29:27 +0000 http://www.ubfriends.org/?p=6992#comment-10988 Brian, thank you for this generous offer. I hope that some of us can make use of it soon.

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